tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7384696295028916937.post51511683394957744..comments2023-07-27T14:49:37.837-07:00Comments on Back in the Labyrinth: Dramatic License in RoleplayingSean Robsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16429301144221551751noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7384696295028916937.post-43327092905265975752012-01-20T17:34:41.763-08:002012-01-20T17:34:41.763-08:00Great anecdote, Joshua; never underestimate player...Great anecdote, Joshua; never underestimate player paranoia!Sean Robsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16429301144221551751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7384696295028916937.post-28322608618787510492012-01-20T16:16:45.003-08:002012-01-20T16:16:45.003-08:00In relation to Sean's later comment; I'm s...In relation to Sean's later comment; I'm sure most can quickly relate. Hell even just the last session I had been running featured the players not only coaxing a whole village to go attack a powerful and arcane druidic tribe (which went really badly for the villagers, but let the players not get ganked), but they even ended up mowing down both of the rangers of the local lord that were seeing what the heck went down after the battle was done and gone. At no point did they attempt to attack the party, but they were wearing forest cloaks (patchwork camouflage) and one of them <i>had a short bow.</i><br /><br />Funnily enough, the captcha for this post is 'excesses'...<br /><br />That is a good battle, and rarely are there those that are as interesting. Forgive my posting on a post this old.Joshuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10009433185355976238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7384696295028916937.post-24439315282440668782011-05-01T21:38:00.113-07:002011-05-01T21:38:00.113-07:00Bear in mind that if your thinking about Jason in ...Bear in mind that if your thinking about Jason in D&D terms with a DM, those are probably Skeleton Warriors of the 10HD variety...or maybe Jason's only 3rd level (which would be pretty powerful from a vilalger's point of view). A melee round in odler editions used to assume MANY thrust and parries before you get the chance to really find a weakness...that was the whole concept of Hit points (As Gygax in the old example had pointed out; a high level fighter had more hp that 4 large warhorses, which was ridculous).40K + T&Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09058918571922538449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7384696295028916937.post-18059728430314371192010-09-30T19:06:30.746-07:002010-09-30T19:06:30.746-07:00You need to give them the old "talk to the ha...You need to give them the old "talk to the hand" treatment!Aaron E. Steelehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07789462075611254929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7384696295028916937.post-17619508103112532152010-09-30T07:08:24.753-07:002010-09-30T07:08:24.753-07:00@migellito: yes, those are some seriously bad-ass ...@migellito: yes, those are some seriously bad-ass skeletons - fast and very handy with a sword. Having watched so many Harryhausen movies as a child this is how I always envision skeletons behaving.<br /><br />@Anonymous: my point isn't to let the scene 'play out properly,' but a tongue-in-cheek observation that players tend to leap before they look and attack before they have any idea what the situation truly is. This tendency is both universal and inevitable in gaming and I find it amusing, especially considering the number of innocent people my players have killed over the years by jumping the gun on combat.Sean Robsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16429301144221551751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7384696295028916937.post-75745242085419532022010-09-30T02:17:06.748-07:002010-09-30T02:17:06.748-07:00I appreciate what you're saying, but it sounds...I appreciate what you're saying, but it sounds a little too close to railroading for me. If the PCs want to blast the guy, I would have no problem letting them do it (or try.) It's a game not a movie. Letting the scene "play out properly" is not too far removed from Dragonlance style heavy plotting in my opinion, and robs the players of one of the great and unique things about roleplaying. <br /><br />And admit it, when watching these movies don't you think to yourself "c'mon, don't let him finish the spell! Don't just stand there!" It's like the old horror movie thing... the audience screaming "don't open the door!" or whatever. <br /><br />I guess it comes down to this - do you see RPG events as people living in a fantasy world, or as a sort of cinematic reality? I prefer the former, myself, so anything goes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7384696295028916937.post-28106967992356863222010-09-29T22:05:15.807-07:002010-09-29T22:05:15.807-07:00I really enjoyed that movie every time I saw it. I...I really enjoyed that movie every time I saw it. It's another great representation of my belief that undead, even the lowly skeleton, should be much tougher (in some way) than the average DnD player is used to.<br /><br />These, after all, were Jason and 2 of his Argonauts. No mere veterans they, yet half a dozen skeletons bested them.migellitohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17106614212764056058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7384696295028916937.post-9398626322750859942010-09-29T20:52:11.388-07:002010-09-29T20:52:11.388-07:00Back in my 3E days I had spent an entire weekend c...Back in my 3E days I had spent an entire weekend creating a multi-templated stat block for a vampire lord that had lain entombed and desiccated for centuries. Once the PC's freed him I began to describe his slow reconstitution and had a great soliloquy planned for when he was fully reformed. Sadly, it went unspoken; the PCs won initiative and killed him in the first round. He never even got to attack back. <br /><br />That was when I knew I'd had enough of 3E. It should never take longer to build a character than it does to kill him.Sean Robsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16429301144221551751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7384696295028916937.post-6352496021702172152010-09-29T20:22:44.567-07:002010-09-29T20:22:44.567-07:00I feel your pain on this one. I have had to resort...I feel your pain on this one. I have had to resort to adding an extra obstacle between the adventuring party and the evil sorcerer who is attempting to raise the abyss. The obstacle can be a variety of things, like henchmen, a giant chasm, etc., but the point is that the characters are slowed down, they realize the ritual has to be stopped, and they have the realization that they may not actually be able to get there in time. Its all about tension and timing.Shane Mangushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03865733072718219138noreply@blogger.com